Risk, Intensity, Complexity

To move a sport forward, you have to take it apart and put it back together again. Today, we talk with two thought leaders in climbing’s next chapter -- routesetters Tondé Katiyo and Adam Pustelnik -- about the craft of creating movement and we introduce a concept every climber should know about.

A few clips that we talk about:

Adam Ondra on Silence

Chris Sharma on 3 Degrees of Separation

Kai Harada’s one arm hang and crimp swap

Music by: Brendan O’Connell • Cordelia Zars